User talk:Anaxis
Looking to get in touch
Please reach out, I'd like to get in touch with you to ask you some questions. This will be a calm and private conversation. Since I believe you'll trust Klop, you can reach out to him first and he'll fill you in, use ghostpepper24#3189 SpookyBones (talk) 18:56, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
CWCki Jerkop
I'm thinking of adding more CWCki Jerkop moderators here primarily to help with account creation requests from the CWCki Discord. Would you be interested in that? Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 00:11, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Sure thing! I'd be glad to help. --Anaxis (talk) 00:15, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
- Added you to Jerkops. It gives you the block user, rollback edits, delete page, move page, and create account tools. Create Account can be accessed from the Special pages link at left. Hurtful Truth Level (talk) 00:25, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Explain yourself
Lainchu Manifesto
Hello Anaxis, after you telling me your plans to create an abridged version of your Manifesto, and after you telling me about how quickly the rumors spread, I decided I want to contribute in some way to your effort in condensing your work by making a "CliffsNote" version of that.
My plan is to take your Manifesto, and put the most important parts of it (mostly the stuff having to do with Chris), and writing them as bullet points in Simple English, as a common criticism I see of your Manifesto is the number of large words you use and how long-winded it can get at points. I also feel this could be a contributing factor as to why the rumors spread a lot more easily, as they're much more easy for people to digest.
I've already established the "Lainchu Saga" in order to condense the crucial parts of that whole drama, and the "Everfree Saga" for the stuff about the Knights, but there's only so much I can put in those sagas.
Before I do that, though, I want to make sure I have your permission for me to do so, as I do not wish to interrupt your plans. Psycho 🐧 (talk) 14:08, 18 March 2025 (EDT)
- Actually, what I had written in my message was that I am not currently working on an abridged Manifesto, only that someone suggested it and that I might do so in the future if there's enough interest, both within the community and within myself. However, if you'd like to write up your own Cliff's Notes for it, then maybe I could use that as a resource in the event that I do choose to work on it.
- I'd also like to state for the record that while brevity could potentially help clear up some of the rumors surrounding the incest incident, I don't believe that a lack of it was the main reason why those rumors continue to spread. Unfortunately, the simple nature of the internet - and especially gossip forums like Kiwi Farms - is that attention tends to gravitate around simple stories that sound juicy, scandalous, and clickbaity, leaving truth by the wayside even despite having copious amounts of evidence. Most people will just read headlines and won't bother actually looking into the rest of it, so I don't exactly find it surprising that these rumors are still so prevalent. I certainly don't discourage the creation of media that fights to tell the truth (that would be particularly hypocritical coming from me), but I also think you should have realistic expectations about how much good they will do in the grand scheme of things. You're already fighting an uphill battle, your best is all that you can do.
- I noticed the additional sagas that you added, and I appreciate the attempts to condense the narrative. I do have some personal notes about them, but I'll save those for their respective talk pages.
- Anyway, all of this is to say that, yes, you have my permission to create Cliff's Notes for the Manifesto. You could post it on one of your user pages, and if ever I decide to work on the Lainchu Manifesto Abridged, I'll be sure to incorporate the notes you took. Let me know if you have any questions, and best of luck. Anaxis (talk) 18:37, 18 March 2025 (EDT)
- Can't say I guarantee this'll lead to any immediate results, or even anything long-term, but I do think it would at least acknowledge and satisfy a lot of people's concerns (I've seen people say it should be shortened if it "has anything of value.") So thanks for permitting me to do this. Psycho 🐧 (talk) 20:34, 18 March 2025 (EDT)
Discord Q&A 12
Hello Anaxis, it just occurred to me that I created a page on your attempt to revive the Q&A, and I never got around to asking: would you personally consider this part of your Q&A series? I marked its current name as "unofficial", since you never put this in the series prior. Psycho 🐧 (talk) 15:22, 19 March 2025 (EDT)
- If Chris had ever answered those questions, then yes, I would've posted it here as Discord Q&A 12. However, considering he didn't, I'm not sure if it's ultimately necessary to have a page dedicated to Q&A 12. You could just as easily read the conversation in our DMs; what set the Discord Q&A series apart from just posting a DM conversation is the way I formatted the pages to focus on one question at a time, and since Chris never answered my final batch of questions, it can't be formatted that way, making it no different from the DM page. I think that if you want to make mention of the questions that Chris failed to answer, you could include a link on the Discord Q&A 11 page to that DM conversation. Anaxis (talk) 21:45, 19 March 2025 (EDT)
Hermaphrodite
Hello Anaxis, just wanted to check up on something, as I wasn't sure how busy you were.
Hurtful has already given his opinion on the Hermaphrodite page, basically saying he thought it should stay, but that that page and "Transgender" should be separate. However, I still feel it's necessary if I got your opinion too, since, as I stated, I wasn't entirely sure if the name I gave to the page was entirely accurate, and wanted to give you time to evaluate what I wrote there, just to make sure we're all on the same page. To make things easier in this regard, I think I should tell you my thought process while making the page.
To clarify, when I created that page, the intent was originally to just discuss Chris's opinions about penises being drawn on women, which he often referred to as them being "hermaphrodites", a stressor of his that's been noted for quite some time, going far back as even the Classic Era, but never got a dedicated page for whatever reason.
The stuff about trans people was more an afterthought while I was making the page. Some of the section names were even originally things like "hermaphrodites as a stressor". While I was researching Chris's opinions on the topic, however, I did notice that it somewhat overlapped with his discussion about trans people in general, sometimes even saying "transgenders and hermaphrodites", and Rosechu, when drawn in this fashion, was even described as being trans in some of the Mailbags, which angered Chris quite a lot.
My original intention wasn't to create the page, just to make up a trans version of the "homos" page, and I apologize if it came off this way.
With all that said, I await your thoughts. Psycho 🐧 (talk) 13:56, 4 April 2025 (EDT)
- Hi Psycho, thanks for explaining your intentions. I wanted to answer your talk page topic on the Transgender page, but I kept putting it off as I've had a busy week. It wasn't my intention to halt your momentum when it comes to writing the article; you can always write what you want and then take out what isn't needed after. The thing I was more concerned with pumping the brakes on was changing the content of other existing pages or redirects within the CWCki before having a discussion about it. In that sense, I agree with Hurtful, and we should keep the Transgender page as is for now. Having finally read the Hermaphrodite in page in full, I can see what you're trying to do, and it's clear that you've put both a lot of thought and a lot of work into it. I think we'll probably need to have a broader discussion at some point about how and where to consolidate information about Chris's feelings on his own transition and how he views other trans people, but for now, feel free to keep working on the Hermaphrodite page. We can decide what goes where later. Anaxis (talk) 19:42, 5 April 2025 (EDT)
With Regards to Fiona
Hello Anaxis, I've been meaning to clean up Fiona's page for a while now, like I have been with Bella's, but I also didn't feel I should be editing her page too much unless I actually had a proper understanding of her character and her role in Christory, as most other people that talk about her appear to have some sort of lean towards her, even more so that Bella, I'd argue. People either viewed her as some innocent victim or were just flat out A-logs. At most, I've changed any instances of "the Suitress" to her first name, made footnotes to clarify usage of the codename, and tried to remove all direct references to her being autistic I came across. I especially felt that people putting so much focus on her being autistic was part of what led to some of the false views and drama surrounding her. (See the movie Music to see what I'm talking about) I don't expect you to have all of the answers, but I do think you'd be a good source of information, too, as you've talked to her both in DMs, and in the Knights server to know what she might have been like to some extent.
I'm also going to preface this by saying that I do not wish to reiginite any old drama, and that I do not intend any harm to befall on Fiona, nor do I intend to drag her back into Christory, especially since she appears to have long since matured and moved on. My intent in asking you is purely for clarity, since I don't think you really talked about her character all that much.
Something that's kind of been bugging me since I've read your Manifesto is that conversation that you had with Snoo/Fiona, where you warned her NOT to contact Chris. Setting aside the obvious fact that she ignored your warning entirely, in that DM, she talks about how she wanted to "befriend" and "help" Chris, and had no intention of weening. But yet in some of her other posts, she also appears to demean and talk about Chris negatively, and going on these weird A-loggy rants, where she only talked about wanting to hate/pity fuck him, and deeming him as an "anti-role model" of sorts, akin to other lolcows she mentioned. You also mention that Snoo was particularly quiet around you when she was in the Knights Server with you, likely because she knew she could get in trouble, as you already warned her about Chris.
With all that said, how would you personally characterize Snoo, and would you necessarily say she had trollish intent in mind?
Edit: I forgot to mention, though he was against the Suitress policy due to the many problems it presented, Anaxis was also AGAINST Fiona getting doxed by the Watchmen, even when some of them told him to "fuck off", so that gives me more reason to believe he wouldn't say what he'd say out of some sort of spite, and would likely provide an unbiased answer. Psycho 🐧 (talk) 09:44, 16 April 2025 (EDT)
- Turns out that I had a lot more to say than I expected. I hope that what I've shared here has helped shed more light on Fiona, and that it's of assistance when rewriting her article. Let me know if you have other questions about her or any other familiar characters that were on Discord in CWC-centric spaces, and I'll try my best to answer them. Best of luck. Anaxis (talk) 23:25, 24 April 2025 (EDT)
- Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you basically just confirmed some of my worst assumptions...she really did play innocent when confronted, like I presumed. Your discussion about her crush is also...interesting. Nonetheless, I think this is a pretty fair, unbiased answer you gave, and it should be fairly useful when evaluating everything about her that's been uncovered thus far. So thanks for clarifying. Psycho 🐧 (talk) 00:03, 25 April 2025 (EDT)
Overcorrecting
Yo Anaxis,
It's been a while since we've last talked, but as you know, I've been trying to rectify the issues that came about from the "Suitress Policy". Last we spoke, I remember you having concerns about me overcorrecting with my edits. Thinking about that, I take that to mean that maybe I was either swaying too far in the opposite direction when it came to documenting Fiona, second-guessing myself, or was being a little too hard on myself, but for the sake of documenting things properly, I decided I should reach out to you to double check on what you meant by that. As in, see what particularly I was doing that could be corrected.
Since you expressed your concerns, I've been doing a lot of reflecting on my decisions to cover Fiona the way I did on the wiki all those years ago (Suitress Policy and all), writing both an essay and an opinion piece on everything with the intent of helping with the editing process. I'm not sure if you've read either, but in what I've written in the essay so far, I explain that I personally attribute all of that to some sort of ambivalence I've always had towards her, and having rather disorganized, disjointed opinions on her as a person. That is, I've always recognized that she has both very valuable traits, and really shitty traits as well, but never figured out how to put them all together cohesively. I was also afraid of pissing people off too much, since people were utterly angry and volatile over Fiona during that chaotic time, everyone each saw very different things in her, and no one really seemed to want to cooperate on forming a cohesive image of her. I was worried about the risks that'd occur if my expressed opinions on her swayed too much on either side, not to mention people like GiBi and others getting targeted for "doxing" Fiona.
From all the work I did on those two pieces, while I can say I've developed a sort of newfound appreciation towards Fiona and her role in Christory, better recognizing her complexity and not fitting any one label other Christorical Figues would usually fall under, I still can't say the same about the clarity on my overall opinion on her. I still don't think I ever really figured out HOW I am supposed to feel about Fiona, or what I'm supposed to say about her without upsetting people, and have always just went with what everyone else was saying about her. Even now, I still feel this is my general thought process on her, trying to document her without upsetting people too much. I personally attribute this as the reason for me "overcorrecting" things, as you put it. I feel it's somewhat difficult to portray Fiona objectively without upsetting SOMEBODY over saying the wrong things. I'm also worried that I still have the wrong idea about her entirely, even after everything, and that everything I've written in the updated page could still be completely off.
For this reason, I figured I should step away from everything related to her for a bit (her page and the pieces I'm working on), at least until I make sense of things better. I feel this type of mindset, where we try to overly simplify people into archetypes, and then try to moralize about it, is what causes things like the "Suitress Policy" to happen, and I want to alleviate that before I even try to document Fiona properly, in all of her depth and complexity. Psycho 🐧 (talk) 19:51, 14 May 2025 (EDT)
Updates:
- Update 1: As of 19 May 2025, I'm back to working on the pieces, but I don't think I'll be working on her page for a bit.
- Update 2: As of 25 May 2025, I decided to put another pause on the pieces. I've written a lot this past week, and want to make sure everything is going in the right direction before I continue writing further.
- Update 3: (30 May 2025) Turns out I had a lot more to say than I thought. It seems that even when I try to take a break from the whole thing, I always have at least one or two other things to say about the events that transpired.
- Update 4: (1 June 2025) Just recently I've gotten into digging through the Discord for Snoo's old post. Just thought I'd let you know.
- Update 5: (11 June 2025) It's been a while since I've last worked on Blind Observers. All the while, I've been busy leaking relevant DMs I've had with people about the policy. I also decided to leak pretty much all the DMs I've had with Spooky Bones, which I think I got a little distracted by, since I do think they'd shed some light on some things, particularly the thread they made on Hurtful Truth Level and some of their edits here.
- Update 6: (14 June 2025) Hurtful informed me yesterday that he wanted to read what I wrote thus far, so I'm going to put the essay on hiatus again, possibly for a longer period this time around. I've also been focusing more of my time on the other pages anyway, so a lot of my focus isn't really on the essay right now.